Monday, November 30, 2009

How to find job in Australia

I immigrated to Australia few months back. I was armed with an IIT degree with 4 year exp in world class company in India. Looked on-line for various tactics to get job quickly and implemented most of what I found logical. With substantial effort and hard work i finally managed to get a job. This page is an extract of my experience during my struggle which I found the hard way so that others would streamline their efforts and get job quickly. I am getting huge numbers of mail everyday and its very difficult to reply in person to all queries. In order to address these queries I plan to write more articles covering the following points in detail  For serious job seekers, I strongly recommend to follow the discussion by joining as follower.


How Long is too long: My first week resulted in 2 interview and the requirement was so close i believed i was too unlucky to not get in one of them. I was on high and thought it would be cakewalk. Soon reality strikes and i entered in dry period with nothing happening for next 3 weeks. I talked to many seasoned people and they helped me to calm down. I was told if someone migrating to au gets first job in 2 month, his lucky star is shinning very very bright. Typicall time is from 2 month to 6 month. You would be very unlucky not to find anything even struggling for six months.


One Lingering Curiosity: First lets clear one curiosity which comes to all of our minds. Can one find job sitting back in home country ?When I tried searching sitting back in india I must admit the response was poor. Few bothered to reply back with standard regret mail. Very few recruiters do reply back that they would consider if i were in Au. After i arrived, i had opportunity to talk to many recruiters face to face and asked if its possible to consider for position sitting back in home country. Unless the requirement is really unique the company would easily find the skill set in the present market and would not consider going for visa delays and hassles. With global financial crisis , the chances of securing job sitting in homeland is virtually impossible in my view.


Job Market Dynamics: Let me first give you a brief insight how things work here. Here in Au most of the jobs are advertised by recruiting agencies who are hired by companies to find suitable candidates. These agencies post job ads to various sites and in response gets tons of resumes. The recruiters put email filters so that only resume with most matching keywords pass their mailbox. Then recruiters scan all resumes in mailbox and most of the time submit just 1-2 resumes to company for considerations. Usually one company give request to 3-4 recruiting agency hence these agencies are competing for the commission for this one job. Now understand the dynamics here. The recruiter has only 1-2 resume which he can submit from the whole lot and he can maximize his chance of securing the commission only if he presents the very best talents to company. Hence the first and the biggest hurdle in securing job is convincing the recruiting agency that you are the best talent available for this position and if he gets any doubt on your credentials then your resume is heading to his bin.


Contact Recruiting Agency: If the resume is a great match to the opening its highly recommended to call the recruiter after submitting resume. The recruiter would honestly convey why he feel you are not the best option for this role and you have a chance to clarify anything if the resume is not highlighting it properly. If he buys your explanation then its better to ask for the exact requirement and resend another tailor made resume highlighting in CV the exp and achievement in-line with the requirements. Recruiters prefer to meet the candidate to ensure whom they are presenting to the hiring manager. If he asks to meet, you should gladly agree and try to fix appointment at earliest. If recruiter do not follow you for this opening in future, its better not to worry bcos the job has already slipped out of your hand so fetch another rather than going for wild goose chase. Tailored resume highlighting requirements is very important. Since most of the openings are contract based companies dont hire anyone who has learning curve. Even if the recruiter dont budge after you call, its wise to politely exit the call and try to bridge good relation with the recruiter so that you are considered for future prospects. Out of 100 applicants he rejects 98 so Always remember he may be your biggest hurdle but he can be your stepping stone if he believes you and short list you.


Local Experience: One thing I heard quite frequently is called 'local experience'. This one word will hurt your prospects more often then not. There are many reasons for giving significance to local experience. Few recruiters says its easy to check references if one has local experience. Candidates under sheer desperation to get any job go in length to tailor resume which they cant defend in interview and waste everyone time. Remember tailoring is highlighting your skills relevant to requirement and would certainly help but fake resume wont. With local exp one can be sure to be able to work with the team in au and has adopted to the aussie work culture. I personally believe the arguments for local exp are weak and unfair but who says life is always fair.




Finance Matters: The most important thing to consider before landing is finance. Its the most important thing bcos Sydney/Melbourne are quite expensive. I was told by many that you should have finance to servive in Au for atleast 6 months. Me and my wife were spending wisely still the expenses were huge . Few tactics I believe one should adopt initially:
  1. If possible dont come with family. If you come alone the cost of living can be reduced by sharing apartment etc.
  2. Visit few sites to get idea of how and where to find accommodation
  3. Staying initially with friend/relative is wise before you know how things work
  4. Internet and telephone is required for finding job so account for a laptop and USB internet connection
  5. Public transport is reasonable but dont even dare to walk into cabs . They leave a big hole in pocket.
Voluntary and honorary options: Try to find if someone can give you honorary job which gives you experience rather then sitting at home. One should be intellegent to fish at the right place. A software programmer with 5 year of exp will not be gaining anything by working as unpaid sales man for garments shop but would be helped if he is selling some software. Find hard and convince your employer(very difficult) you would not run as soon as you find something :)


Communication: There is great importance given to communication. The candidate should be filled with confidence. The hand shake should be firm and confident contact to eye is required. I personally believe there is little place for politeness and humbleness when you come for interview. Dont get me wrong. Aussies are one of the most polite and courtiers people but hiring manager want to see confidence on the face of candidate( dont mix with arrogance). I would highly recommend practising commonly asked questions to avoid any pitfalls.




Resume Building: Your resume is the biggest weapon in your bag. Use it wisely. For first job its highly recommended the resume is detailed. The details are required so that there are less queries during interview. Being the first job, one may not know the best way to answer so the lesser questions are preferred so put as much detail as you can. Here is a catch. Put all details but nothing which wastes readers time as time is very highly regarded here.





Applying for Job: When you land in oz, everyone would give you their own idea on how to apply and search for job. Few people told me to apply for each and every job you see on-line even if you dont have any relevant experience. It may sound crazy but it makes sense. The resume may reach the recruiting agency (if passed email filter) and he may consider it for future. But there again is a catch. If you overdo it it may irritate recruiter, he may think you dont understand the stuff you are talking and worst he may block your incoming mails. Remember you are wasting his time and for him time is directly proportional to money. I myself overdid it and got the response from one " I read your resume carefully and found NONE of the requirement matching. " Finally I decided to put all my efforts to the few for which I am good.


Networking Sites: I believe networking through linkedin, facebook, orkut etc is the best way to get first job in oz. Recruiters obviously prefer those with local experience and they usually have openings which are for senior positions. Companies usually consider immigrants for junior positions and once the ability of person is proven he moves up the ladder. Unfortunately junior positions are not advertized since the company prefer not to spent money for junior positions and to fill it internally through reference. Thats where networking is so important. It takes a while to build a working network in foreign land so one should have patience and dedication for networking.
Above are the gist of experience I earned during my job search. I dont claim they are the best but i believe they work :). If someone needs more information on any point, i didnt covered in detail, they are welcome to leave a comment. All the best to all aspiring minds for their future endeavours.

50 comments:

  1. very helpful.. thanks for posting.

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  2. hi, this is cool, thamks a lot....clicked on 3 of them okay.

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  3. Thanks for sharing this vital experience. This would help many of us who are aspiring to move to Australia

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  4. Very good indeed....
    I was once new to Australia as well so you are spot on with many points.
    From a recruiters point of view have a 3-4 page or less CV as we don't have time to read 26 pages (nor will we)and run the spell checker (you'd be surprised!!)
    Do what I call "tweaking" of the CV so it is relevant to the company or open position. This does not mean embellish. Just bring out your strong points relevant to the postion....

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  5. thanks for appreciating my view of job hunt. Do let me know if you apply something unique and it clicked for you
    -Ashish

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  6. - Another thing would be to have global qualifications or certifications in your field, with that your "experience" abroad can be relatively justified by the hiring companies, thus making your transition to AU easier...
    My wife landed up a job in one of Australia's premier networking companies, the reason being she had almost 7-9 global certifications such as CCNP, CCDA,CCVP...you get the picture...

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  7. Oh also, I forgot to mention, she got this full time permanent position within 4-5 months of us landing, but before that she was working in a customer service type role for a large firm in AU. so what Ashish has said about finding a job while you look for your bigger role is a great suggestion...

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  8. I have a question for Brian (The recruiter) - you sound like you're against tailoring the CV , as the writer suggests, but on the other hand you do want that relevant experience and keyword will be emphasized. Isn't that tailoring as well?
    What about cover letters? What should be written there? Maybe at the cover letter one should emphasize how his skills meet the job requirements?

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  9. ashish, thanks for sharing your experiences. Not many people would do it. Using linkedin, is it possible to contact the recruiters from India and setup face-to-face interviews by the time we get to Australia? Do you recommend starting this process during the final stage of PR application? Also, do you have any idea of opportunities in telecom, and how difficult it is to get into business development roles once we land there? thanks.

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  10. Thanks for your kind shared info, but if you could make a list of most important items would be better, it takes a while to read all

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  13. Great Blog, I have had a very similar experience. I would also comment that employers in Australia tend to only hire to an exact match of skills. So even though you know the mix of your skill base would be sufficient for competence you have to demonstrate this potential to a prospective employer. Hence the customising of your CV to highlight your matching skills for a particular role.

    However both verbal and written communication are very important and the first introduction you have to a employer is through your CV. There is nothing worse than a poorly spell checked CV. It suggests the applicant is not really interested in the role and my apply the same level of quality assurance to the job if hired! Remember also its a tiny IT community here so always keep friendly and positive you never know what opportunities will open up as you grow your network and 'local experience'.

    If you are really finding it difficult to get that 'local experience' consider asking the Australian Computer Society for advice or trying a volunteer position with your skill set(http://www.govolunteer.com.au/).

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  14. Thanks Ashish for sharing your experience.
    You didn't mention anything about your visa condition when you arrived Aus. Because personally, I found that most of the companies or recruiters asked for the Permanent Residency (PR). I have done 2 years master degree in Au and I am on bridging visa, so do you have any suggestions that how will I approach recruiters or companies? Please do share about cover letter as well.
    Thank you

    Kedar

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  15. Considering the large numbers of questions i get everyday, I plan to write my followup article on this blog. Stay tuned and i hope most of your queries would get answered :)

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  16. Great blog Ashish, I've recommended this to many of my overseas candidates looking for their elusive first job :)

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  17. ashish - great blog , dude. am also moving to AUS with a resident visa and trying to find a job . hope ur exp helps.

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  18. thank mate.. u doing br8 job.

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  19. Hi, excelent work. I am planning to move to AU, and i will add to favorite this web.

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  20. What a great blog post. I will certainly bookmark this too. So did you network prior to moving to AU? I too am interested in working overseas, but I am finding that it may be a good idea to the targeted area and then to ramp up the job search. What are you thoughts on moving to the targeted country prior to getting a job there?

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  21. Hi Ashish

    Thanks for sharing your experience with us. I believe this is right strategy to get a job in Aus/NZ. I think only one more point we have to focus and thats our covering letter. CL is the first step in the screening process and it should fill the job requirements to tick for recruiters for your processing. I suggest CL should focus on job requirement and what you can offer extra to the company to achieve their vision and mission.

    Deven

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  22. Interesting to hear others' experiences also. Would be nice to know how you eventually ended up finding a job yourself? Via networking, a job ad or what?

    I have to disagree on one thing. You said "The recruiter would honestly convey.." - this is just not true of every recruiter. Some recruiters are unmitigated idiots and worse than useless for any serious job seeker, so it pays to do some research on who the good recruiters are also.

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  23. Hi All,
    I am a new comer(IT prof) to Aus.I read this blog , applied it in my search and here I am with a job in 6 weeks time.Thanks Ashish for this magic portion. Just a few comments from my experience
    My take on this is
    - Do your research on the exact time to come here.In my case Jan was a little early to land as its the time when the business's start alloting funds and later on follow with the recruitment(Feb, March).
    - Your resume should show what you have done in terms of Technology/skills and not repetetive words as in books.(for eg. I would not write "I fixed defects" but would rather write ,I used so and so technology to work on a problem like so and so)
    - networking sites are indispensible and your profile should speak for you.
    - never miss an opportunity to meet your recruiter(specially local guys).and if possible go to thier offices and drop your resume their.I'm sure some one will pick it up.
    - Honestly "Tweak" your resume.what I mean to say is If you havent worked on some technology the recruiter asks, include something which you have worked and is similar and emphasize the level of skills in your CL.Trust me, most of the time the recruitment agents never know whats the difference and this will pull your boat.
    - All said, I must accept that couple of good mates here will always give you that extra edge :).

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  24. Thanks Ashish for sharing your experience :)
    looking forward for your next blog, plz add any ideas on transferring Visit Visa to working or PR.

    best regards

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  25. Hi Ashish

    I read your post and I am actually experiencing the same difficulties as you mentioned in the post. I landed here in december and still struggling to get a job. I think I have a special case not mentioned here that adds to my difficulty is that I am on spouse visa and although I have full work rights, the recruiters still emphasise on having residents. May be they do not get a lot of queries from IT prof who are on spouse visa or whatever but things are just getting desperate spending 3 months hunting for a job and not landing in one yet. Anyway thanks for keeping that window of 3-6 months before I start considering myself unlucky :-( (hopefully i will land somewhere before then :-) )

    Thanks!!

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  26. thanks Asish for ur valuable advice, I am a chemical engineer. i have been here since nine months. i tried very different ways to get the job, but all in vain.... i will try ur suggestions now...pl. tell me if u have any other tips..

    Thanks

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  27. Thanks a lot for sharing. very helpful...
    I have PR for alomost a year, but afraid of moving...
    your article will help me a lot for sure, if I decide to move to Aus.
    Thanks.

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  28. Thanks.
    It took me 2.5 months to land my first contract job as a Business Analyst.

    My Say:
    - First timers need to try hard
    - I spent my own money to travel to other cities to attend interviews
    - Tailor your resume and cover letter for each job
    - daily apply for a selected few jobs where you think you will be a good fit.
    - contact the agencies and if possible meet them in person and do not try to be very sticky
    - Keep preparing for Interviews, especially the behavior based questions
    - Be confident and do not loose hope, sometimes the market is very dull.

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  29. Just a heads up. This is a numbers game and the recruiter at least the good ones are few and far between. In Sydney alone there are more than 2000 recruiters the vast majority of which wouldn’t know a server from a sandwich. If you speak to one who wants to run you through a list of idiotic questions (what was your greatest successes, what were some of your greatest achievements, what are your strengths/weaknesses) run for the hills. I think there should be a legal requirement that the recruiter give their age (hey they ask you, fair is fair) and number of years of experience they have in your field (if they know what field your in)
    So many of these so called recruiters are just here for a vacation and this is a way to make a minimum salary and the occasional commission which by the way unless they are at the top of the food chain it isn’t much.
    Real life statistics to consider, over 270 recruiters in my network, 400 CV`s submitted 2 interviews in 6 months. I may not be the bee’s knees but I have 30 years of international experience which you would think a qualified recruiter could sell. Has not been my experience.
    A couple of other points to consider is the incestuous nature of this market especially in the finance and insurance sectors. You can be the greatest program developer on the planet with 2 dozen references but if you have not worked at the bank go to the rear of the line. Same for most of the industry verticals such as Insurance, Telco’s, and Retail to name a few.
    I actually asked a senior manager if he had a chance with no stipulations to have Albert Einstein teach his children math would he not do it. Unbelievably he said "no". That’s a tough reality in this market, better to lower the bar than invite or recruit a fresh or inovative idea.
    I am now focused on going direct to senior level people that I track down through various means on the net and start interacting with them primarily in linked in but you could use a number of sites depending on your industry and experience. It’s not just a tough market but my experience is the recruiters bar a few have zero imagination or ambition to serve the candidate which will catch up with them in the long run but most of them aren’t around long enough to realize that. I find the same with hiring managers; they lack any real imagination and are more afraid of a fresh idea than they are likely to embrace it.
    I am not trying to paint a completely bleak picture anything but because this is one of the strongest job markets in the world. Just pointing out some realities to set expectations as I find the most difficult part of looking for a role is the emotional roller-coaster that you have to manage in the process.
    To the earlier question about the whole visa issue. It is a catch 22, you can have a visa once you get a job, but you can’t get a job until you have a visa. Actually it’s not that difficult, there are several companies that specialize in just the sponsorship part. Essentially you just sign up with them for a 457 working visa and the hire you out to your employer as a contractor. There is usually a small fee but you can make up for it with some other nice financial benefits such as health care and live away from home credits which more than pay for the fees and it is a norm in Australia. One I can recommend is Peoplebank but I do not have a preference there are several.
    Hope this helps.

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  30. Hi,

    I have got PR visa in July but till now not able to secure even a response to the numberous applications that I made. I spoke to them and got to know that I have to physically be present. I am planning to come to Melbourne in first week of feb 2013. I have enough funds to sustain myself for 2 months. I am scared that if this takes longer that this,how do I sustain myself. Can anyone suggest sites/ type of jobs for IT professional, that can help to sustain while searching for a permanent job.
    I would appreciate any kind of inputs.
    Thanks.

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    1. Me too got PR today..same situation as you..i am still confused whether to leave current job (very risky) or take 3 week leave and try job hunting. i am planning to go in April 2013

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  31. Hi Shubojit,

    Mine is the same condition as yours, will be moving to Australia around feb'13. BTW great blog @Ashish, any suggestions on the interview techniques/questions in common?

    Thanks
    Mukund

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  32. Hi I m in same situation...comming in april....

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  33. all those anonymous guys, me too in the same situation :))

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  39. Hi,
    thanks for sharing your experience ,it will be helpful for new comers in Australia .

    I have got PR visa in July but till now not able to secure even a response to the applications . I am planning to PERTH in first week of JAN 2013. . Can anyone suggest sites/consultants / type of jobs for MECHANICAL-CADCAM professional, that can help for searching a permanent job.
    any of the suggestion will great and helpful
    Thanks.

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  41. Good info who seek for job in au

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  42. http://meega.net is also a nice job board where you can find recent interesting job offers in Australia!

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  43. Hi All,
    we got ur PR jan 2014 planning to move from Singapore to Australia in feb or march 2015. Plan is my husband will be moving first , can any body suggest how is market for
    1)mechanical Design engineer(R&D) experience of 11 years and 1 year of Project management experience.
    2)which state is good to get job the early for mechanical eng.
    3)any jobsites or any groups in facebook please share it with us.

    thanks
    manjula

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  44. 4)sorry one more point is it good time to come between feb-april

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  45. hi, i am planning to relocate to Australia in May'16. I am mechanical engineer with exp in QSHE . If any one can help or guide further,it will be of great help.

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  46. Guys... I am having AUS PR from last 1+ year. But am too scared to resign from my current job in Ireland and move. I am been applying for the jobs from last 1 year from Ireland with no luck. Reading the experience from others , It makes clear that I need to physically available in Australia to be success. Thanks for all the sharing guys..well appreciated .

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